Weight:5.25 oz It was not as loud or as fiery as I expected, but even sitting still its looks are loud enough. Machining and finish are spot on. However, I think that the JP Recoil Eliminator may be a little too aggressive on muzzle rise, actually pushing the muzzle down, and I wonder how the Lantac Dragon does in that regard because I would gladly trade a 10% increase in recoil for a just right muzzle rize elimination. those three all rank 27, and then the next one would be 30 which would probably be the *correct* way to do it. Thanks for the reply. . The BCM by far is the best of bunch. I think what youre looking for is in the performance per dollar graph, where theyre ranked by their performance per dollar of cost. Please add Tromix Shark Brake to the next review. The huge following it has is again an advertising success driven by the like button on Facebook. I have a few of those for the upcoming test #3. Thats an interesting thought. One issue though is that Im concerned it may actually be too agressive on muzzle rise. Finish:machined stainless (8620 steel version is nitrided) I found your tests to be spot on, and I am now running Precision Armament on all my rifles. You following this? In the case of a rifle strapped solidly to a rest like you describe, I think a bare muzzle would show zero flex and any muzzle device that directs more gas up vs. down, or down vs. up, is going to cause flex. Not inexpensive, but still less expensive than many of the similar brakes it outperforms. 2 what? But definitely the other, especially these three: Finish:guessing nitride I believe theyre working on an M4-72 threaded 5/824 and bored for .30 cal and others. I would love to see a chart which compares recoil reduction by weight. Weight:2.57 oz Worked in order from most requested to least requested and, yeah, the SJC Titan was requested a fair amount but less than the others I purchased first. Thunder's robotic welding equipment helps increase weld quality and enhance our working environment. The Thunder Beast CB "Compact Brake" for use on TBAC CB series suppressors: , 30CB5, and 223CB. I am a shooter and a guy who builds a damn fine rifle. Do I care if the people standing next to me are annoyed by the blast from my M4-72? Any reason you think itll perform particularly well? The just right muzzle brake would be the one with the least flex either up or down. Additionally, the shooter has a direct affect in how well he/she braces the rifle. A good review of it can be found here). I have a feeling that some muzzle brakes are too agressive and actually fling the barrel down and some are not aggressive enough and dont really do anything to eliminate muzzle rise. Can you confirm this? Well-designed muzzle brakes can reduce rearwards recoil energy by over 70%. Finish is flawless. I think it has more to do with the shooter than the muzzle device. This will look like muzzle rise just as much as it looks like butt stock drop, but its really just rotation that has nothing at all to do with any sort of upwards force at the muzzle or upwards force from the action. It looks like theyre calling the standard brake the heartbreak, and what you have listed as the heartbreak (in your tests) theyre calling the persuader. Click on the image below for a printable PDF. The effectiveness of the M4-72, and every other brake we have tried was not relevant until the ability to maintain sight picture and make a follow up shot was observed. If you want the best forget the rest and get a Lantac. Were the baffles larger in size and/orif the first two had smaller bore holes through them (for whatever reason, they appear bored for ~.30 cal whereas the muzzle hole is a more typical .223 size), Id bet dollars to donuts it would jump up a few places. Honestly if they arent readily available for purchase then Id probably pass. If you are not 100% satisfied with your suppressor after your Form 4 is approved, you may return it to Silencer Shop for afull refund(in the form of a Gift Certificate) of the silencer (minus Tax Stamp) within 90 days of your Form 4 approval date. Diameter(at largest point): 1.00 Still no SJC Titan? If you were to conduct another round of muzzle device tests, would you please include a Dynamic Resistance device on the list. This would give us warm beer, Jaguar electrics and Inch FALs. Without that, its too subjective. Again though, recoil reduction is only one of many variables worth considering and how theyre each weighted is a matter of personal opinion and/or intended use when choosing which muzzle device will adorn ones rifle. Hybrid devices are also available, which combine the practical effects of two or more of these devices into a single unit. Werd. We got a SCAR 17 barrel in the shop so we tested every muzzle device that we sell. Id love to see the Griffin M4SD added. Awesome stuff Jeremy! Whatevers left over whatever rearwards movement the gun does successfully make is going to also induce rotation IF theres more mass under the bore than over (a heavy optic might balance it out, for example, or an empty vs. full magazine will change things). Notify me Specifications Category Class III Condition New Related products SILENCERCO OSPREY MICRO $ SILENCERCO OCTANE 9 HD $ 619.00 SILENCERCO 9 OSPREY $ 850.00 Q PLAN-B SAKER SUPRESSOR MOUNT $ 149.95 Reviews Machining and finish are both fine, but not exemplary. Weight:3 oz You can opt out at any time, and we'll never sell your info. If you like or at least dont mind the aesthetics, it does actually seem to make for a decent compensator. The MCS-4H cutrecoil energy by ~55% vs. the bare muzzle, and limits blast and concussion for the shooter by angling the baffles forwards (I think this slightly hurts ultimate recoil reduction though). I have one of their Directional Muzzle Brakes for test #3, Cool. So, you lean backwards from the recoil, which makes the muzzle go up. While the CQB brake does not overcompensate for muzzle rise, its still made of aluminum and I just cant get behind thatfor the reasons shown in the separate review. Finish:melonited Lets imagine the rifle is floating in space for the purposes of muzzle flip theory haha: ..Were the mass of the rifle equal above and below the bore, it would absolutely recoil perfectly straight back. Easily the largest 5.56 muzzle brake Ive ever seen, the Ares Breath is over 6 long, 1.9 wide, and sports four blast chambers. Length:1.75 It may justslightly overcompensate for muzzle rise, driving the muzzle slightly downwards on my rifle, but with a different barrel length or less powerful ammo it could be spot-on. Admittedly, Im being selfish. APA: Gen 2 Little Bastard Muzzle Brake. Weight:3.65 oz Finish:Ionbond CrCN Diameter(at largest point): 0.87 At least IMHO . FIRST, make sure the SR collar is UNLOCKED, SECOND, SCREW THE SUPPRESSOR BODY all the way onto the SR brake, ** This should be at 2-3 full turns until it stops on the shoulder **. b. This applies to both the direct thread attach models (eg 30P-1) and the brake-attach models (eg 30BA). Usually the boogeyman is muzzle rise (which I believe is usually just the natural byproduct of rearwards recoil energy anyway). Q. Cherry Bomb Muzzle Brake $100.00. Eight brakes did multiple shots with theexactsame result each time. MSRP:$49.99. Length:2.61 Incredible performance in a small, lightweight package. Weight: 3.60 oz Installing a TBAC muzzle brake using a peel washer - YouTube How to install your BA brake using a peel washer How to install your BA brake using a peel washer AboutPressCopyrightContact. Thanks for all your hard work. How about a 2016 AR-15 Muzzle Brake Shootout #3, These look too fun! Material: 316 stainless steel (mathematically, a 50% reduction and $50 would be a factor of 1.0. I know this is an old discussion, but it seems to me that muzzle rise is real and results from the fact that the center of effort is straight back through the buffer tube, BUT the center of resistance to that force is a couple inches below that line, at approx. Add to cart. http://www.shopmillerprecisionarms.com/Hammerhead_Muzzle_Brake_Miller_Precision_Arms_p/hh-muzzle-brake.htm. Years ago read a test where compensators and brakes were tested but the tester did something ive never ween since and id like to know why. M4SD is here so itll be in the upcoming flash hider test and in muzzle brake test #3 eventually. Its certainly a joy to shoot a rifle with either of the AFABs or this EFAB on it low concussion and blast, stable muzzle and well see how they fare on camera in the dark for the flash hider testing. 800-741-0015. Thanks for your time. Quick view. so I basically feel like it needs to be available for purchase online (maybe phone-only, but thats pushing it ) to be included. The OG and what likely came on your stock AR-15. The CB break is not only smaller than the previous BA muzzle break, it also preforms better. A little more insight to differentiate between side concussion would be much appreciated as well. Diameter(at largest point): 0.877 December 10, 2014. Diamondhead T-BRAKE. This device is intended to be used in compliance with Federal and State law. But I didnt notice any other brake or comp that seems applicable to a recoil reduction sort of a test other than the Good Iron that was already in this one, Yes, my error. Great! Tromix.com shows it on their web site with various thread patterns: While I really like the reduction of recoil, I am thinking about going in another direction or back to my PWS. You ever get an SJC Titan to test? Thunder Technologies 5.56 Heartbreak Persuader: These heart-shaped ports are really effective! 4 models (27) As Low As $6.75 15% Bonus Bucks. E-mail me: GunsAndGearEJ20 [ at. SCAR 17 Muzzle Device Compatibility List. The first 5.56 muzzle brake test is HERE, the third is HERE, the first 5.56 flash hiding test HERE, the second 5.56 flash hiding test HERE, and the first .308 brake test HERE. We are family owned and operated, and serving our clients since 2010. The slow-mo does show very little flash from this brake. Ill try to get in touch with Spikes. I ended up choosing the pws 556. . 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It basically crushes the other ~55 muzzle brake and comps in recoil reduction per dollar. In a sea of muzzle devices with recessed crowns, I like the domed one on the BULLSEYE if for no other reason than its unique. Looking forward to Shootout #3, Im curious about some brakes I didnt see in #1 or #2, like the Fortis Red and Rainer arms STC 2.0. You should have the vais muzzle brake on there. Hmmm? Its not by accident few brakes use that type of obsolete design anymore. Most were donated by the manufacturers, a couple have been borrowed, a handful have been purchased new, a couple I was able to find and purchase used. APA Gen II Little Bastard Well I no longer have the CRD so cant physically confirm fit. MSRP:$89.99. The Merlin engine that made the pretty good Mustang Mk.I into the awesome P-51B/C. The budget for buying brakes isnt that big, and there are quite a few with higher priority (based mostly on requests) to buy before the $110+ Dynacomp 2, Ideally a 2nd flash hiding test will be published before year end as well. For the small size and weight, Thunder Techs brakes perform like crazy. Have you seen the line up at Witt Machine? And the last, potentially most valuable, use a sum of stack ranks to determine which brake has overall the best reduction and lowest cost. SKU: Thunder Beast : Brakes : 30CB-BRK 5/8X24. looking forward to see the results of the SJC. Material: case hardened steel Recoil reduction really wouldnt be worth checking in this case, but sound, concussion, ease of install would be valid comparisons. 2000 Windy Terrace #1A, Cedar Park, TX 78613. I been looking at 2 and here are the 2 i been looking at ( SJC Titan Compensator, .223 Stainless Steel )( V-POWER Muzzle Brake/Compensator ) so what should I go with and if there is another one that is better then those, please let me knowthank you, You left the DPMS Miculek out of the final data? The King Comp is new to the market from Strike Industries, and its a pretty cool looking brake. But mostly I wouldnt shoot the gun unless it was truly necessary, or Id carry ear pro with me. Is the Specwar Trifecta Brake the same as the Saker Trifecta brake with a different mounting option? Jeremy, Thank you for posting this review. JavaScript seems to be disabled in your browser. Material: HTSR 416 stainless steel Heres a consolidation of the ones suggested above for convenience: APA Gen II Little Bastard Okay, so if the Claymore is a bit fast and dirty, the Dual Chamber Muzzle Brake is a bit salvaged from a shipwreck. The machining itself is fine, but the bar stock Troy is using has all sorts of pock marks and imperfections in it. JP Compensators Bennie Cooley Standard-Profile: Available in a bunch of sizes to match your caliber and barrel diameter, plus in matte black or polished stainless finish to match your aesthetic preference. As far as I can tell, the Jake Brake isnt currently manufactured? Machining is great. I could come up with a more complex rig thats on sliders (like drawer sliders) or wheels or whatever, but then Id have to add springs or a hanging weight/pendulum to bring it to a stop at the rear and capture that peak distance before it returned forwards, etc etc. SJC Titan, What Smith one? Designed to be a good all-around brake and comp, the Curse is a dual-chamber brake with a bunch of relatively small slots instead of full-on, open ports. I have one for a standard AR barrel that Id be willing to lend for the test. 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