Lana found out on December 12, when Teena drove her to Lincoln and introduced her to her sister. Dave: Thats certainly one consideration that administering death drags us down to the perps level (albeit that the administration is perhaps more civilised than theirs was) If the US must have it I favour it being done with brutal candour (not brutality): hanging, shooting, and the chair are all quick and painless when done competently and look like what they are: capital punishment. Well as Jude, whom you aver agreement with, asserts Brandon was male, and you imply he WASNT male til the coming surgery (why mention it otherwise? In his current version, they found Teena hiding under the blanket, she got up and sat on the edge of the bed, the three of them argued loudly, and then they murdered her. We all should. Also in the house was Phillip DeVine, a friend of theirs who was dating Tisdel's sister Leslie. I may wish to be known as female, and take the female form (more or less convincingly), but I remain in essence (ie, biologically) male and cannot change that (if I may use this word) ontologically. There is a noteworthy moment. But they raped her, the one thing men do to assert dominance and humiliation. Identity politics or whatever cannot alter scientific fact. Language links are at the top of the page across from the title. His loved ones and a lot of idiots, LGBT types included, are trying to get him off the death row. Apparently there is Teenas prison letter to Lana, where Teena is morosely doing time, pacing the cell and doing push ups and chin ups. However, i do think its silly that one is on death row and the other has life. Teena Brandon liked Sprite soda and the old Whatchmacallit candy bars, the old ones came with real peanuts, cookie crisp and liquidy gooey caramel. During a Christmas Eve party, Lotter and Nissen forced Teena to take off his clothes in order to show everyone, including Lana, his genitals. Teena was trying to join the U.S. Army as a radio communications technician, and she would have done well in the military, she had leadership potential. Its shameful, in my view, to spend such a huge amount of money to keep people imprisoned more expensively only for the purpose of killing them, when there are people living in poverty on the streets Even if it only cost twice as much as for lifers, that would be a good reason on the abolishment side. John Lotter and Tom Nissen are currently in prison, with Nissen serving life imprisonment and Lotter facing execution. When I started my research back in 1994, wanting to meed another girl like her, I discovered certain excellent research forgotten today. I was there. You like to minimize the fact that Brandon identified as a boy by trying to label it as some inherent tomboyishness that most girls identify with at some part of their childhood. Their motive couldve been for multiple reasons multiple reasons why she angered them. When taken in this context, Sheriff Lauxs infamous interview of Teena is not as preposterous as it seems, though it does not absolve Laux, since he behave horribly towards Teena and towards her sister after she came in to take Teenas things after she was murdered. Do you know who punches and kicks women in the stomach? Their reduced circumstances, however, havent stopped the pair from snagging love interests while behind bars. John Lotter is a very violent criminal. To begin with, Teena had a different name for her male self, not the one you see on the internet. This week, well take a little sabbatical from Forensic Files to observe the 25th anniversary of Brandon Teenas murder a true-crime case little known outside of Nebraska until Hollywood came knocking. Poor kid. His fear of being executed has broken him. She also failed to show up for the follow up interview, claiming she was scared and that people were watching the Court building looking for her. Lotter and Nissen had told Teena that if he told anyone what they did, they would kill him. Lisa Lamberts house. (Boys Dont Cry and The Brandon Teena Story). It allows the individuals that commit violent crimes to be glamorized, to feel gratitude for the crimes they committed. Lots of people oppose the death penalty both in moral and practical terms. When she got to the hospital, they automatically brought up the rape exam as a matter of standard practice with battered women brought to emergency rooms. Teena loved authority in the way of any good soldier who will fall in line and gladly stand at attention if the occasion calls for it. Regardless of who pulled the trigger, Lotter helped plan the murders, which makes him legally accountable just the same. No, I post here, because that who Teena was and that is what happened to her. The documentary is also mendacious and hopeless. She wanted to be a commercial artist. Leslie Tisdel was vocal about the film's script changes, and upset that her boyfriend who was murdered, Phillip DeVine, was not included in the film, nor was she, and instead the film focused on Brandon Teena. She took more religion electives in school than she did art. But it (identity) doesnt matter, as some commentators would have it. You stole the gun. Recommended for you 7 Saucy Photos of Mysterious Lady Gakui Wangu Spotted Getting Cosy with Sam. How else could Tom and John have founded Brandon at Lisa? There are those who shrilly demand conformity as though this is a settled matter. Teena Brandon was a much better actress, a vaudevillian, than she was an pencil and paper artist. Teena Brandon was biologically female and she responded emotionally like a woman. In Ca 10 years ago, it cost an extra $90,000 per inmate to imprison someone sentenced to death. Teena played a different tune for Lana Tisdel during their visit Teena is upset, listless, asking Lana to get her out of jail. Three arrested after student Aya Hachem killed in drive-by shooting in Blackburn By the time he was 21, Brandon was identifying solely as a man and moved in with his 18-year-old girlfriend, Lana. The director of the film, Kimberly Pierce, worked on the script for many . Teena Brandon both, had flaws, and was severely emotionally traumatized, that everyone wrongly chucked to child sexual abuse, she needed a lot of love, that the girls she chased after were not a able to give her. Whatever you meant, or meant to state, this is actual meaning of your words. First, A Teen. Lana Bachman lives in Centralia, KS; previous city include Falls City NE. She COULDVE been posing as male as an experiment perhaps to help her make a final decision on surgery. Sadly, her mother, Linda Gutierres, who came off as a flawed but not irredeemable character in the documentary, died in 2003 at the age of 54. I enjoyed the update, especially knowing that these two low lives are still behind bars. But investigative reporters dig, except not in this case. Lisa Lambert was a single mother from Pawnee City, Nebraska, who often let friends stay with her in exchange for their help and company, because she lived outside of town. The why matters far less than the that. Whether someones murdered cos theyre trans or the wrong colour the end results exactly the same regardless of the expressed or putative reason for the crime death and suffering. Have you seen the jacket she was wearing? I Another takeaway from this is that just like Lana, Nissen knew that Teena was a girl before everyone else. Nissen uses Teenas proper name (Tenna) and claims to now be a Celtic Pagan prison priest. Notice how no account of Teena Brandons life examines Teenas family to any extent. How self-serving and ignorant can you get? The ladies obviously had intellectual rather than carnal gratification in mind when they married them. You are too ready to believe bad reporting and poor journalism. They beat up and raped Brandon one night in December 1993. Kinda goes against the public myth, I know. [7], Tanner Lambert graduated from Humboldt High School in 2011, and was raised by his aunt. They had to physically lift her off the ground and sit her on the edge of the bed. Aug. 24, 2000 -- Brandon Teena lived and loved as a man. Gender identity is the gender a person identifies with or feels themselves to be, and is their own or a social construction. HOUSING! After dinner, the others jumped him and beat him to a bloody pulp, and they robbed him. The truly informative articles are as follows: Eric Konigsbergs Death Of A Deceiver. This was actually an investigation, where multiple journalists interviewed many people, and Konigsberg is a Lincoln, NE native. Learn how and when to remove this template message, "FindLaw's Supreme Court of Nebraska case and opinions", http://www.1011now.com/home/headlines/Exclusive_John_Lotter_Death_Row_Interview_151736035.html, http://www.classmates.com/people/Lana-Tisdel/7602723794, Gary Bachman obituary, Falls City Journal, https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Lana_Tisdel&oldid=1120811829, Short description is different from Wikidata, BLP articles lacking sources from March 2015, Articles with unsourced statements from August 2022, Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike License 3.0, This page was last edited on 8 November 2022, at 23:21. Shrink that gave her the gender transition checklist did her no favors. [8], Tisdel graduated from Falls City High School in 1993. Refer to people as they prefer, not as you insist they be. It cant logically be both. NEED RELIABLE HELP! According to his own admission, Teena helped them to get on their feet financially and economically, when they got to Omaha, where were they, when Teena was desperately calling from Falls City to get out of there? This article gets some things wrong, but it is great for background information. Brandon : Lana, you are one cranky girl. brandon is a he. Its difficulties such as these considerations that inform my opposition of the death penalty. What you tolerate, you had better be prepared to suffer. BEING TARGETED,FOR BEING A TRANS MAN! An interesting thought with someone who has an IQ of 67? Rehabilitations not in issue for these two, just permanent removal from society. Teena Brandon and Nissen drove to Lincoln, NE together on more than one occasion, once for Teenas Court appearance, and another time to see Teenas sister to get some money. When LGBT appropriated Teena into a simplified gay bashing legend, how much of the real story did they ignore as opposed to basic arrogance, self centeredness and ignorance? Lana, who in her youth resembled actress Jodie Foster, still has long beautiful strawberry blond hair. A few days later, on New Year's Eve 1993, Lotter and Nissen came to the Tisdel residence drunk and looking for Brandon, and threatened the Tisdel sisters. But a week after he was arrested on a check-forging. The problem lies in *demand* of the use of the likes of pronouns by or for those whove had a sex change, and the further stance that this is authentic change of sex (rather than gender). However, if you look on the internet, you will see a photo of Teena Brandon grinning maniacally, one hand holding her crotch, another arm wrapped around none other than Lotter, her hand is tightly grabbing Lotters shirt. I have to agree. OCCASIONS, But Lotter and Nissan dont have a whole lot at stake in that regard. An infected heart doesnt imply an infected mind or defective argument. Hes too ignorant to be ashamed of his actions (or inaction) and I dont think he was held accountable. Dissolute youths. Apart from the television works, this American has also appeared in movies. Having already asserted by dint of logic that he was male, you effectively contradicted that by adding that he was, in effect, becoming male in due course (therefore not yet). Dune did a lot of research and was able to track how Teena moved from Lincoln to Falls City. An Update on John Lotter and Thomas Nissen. I cant decide which. Its a disgrace on many levels. His main problem was having a gender identity crisis in an era when people didnt talk about that kind of thing openly. There is male and female sex period. Teena Brandon was great, because she had a personal strength ethic of heroic proportions. How can one be respectful of what is claimed [by one] to be imagined? Too bad, Lotter got more help from the well meaning morons trying to get him off the death row than Teena got from highly paid professionals whose job it was to help her. Teena was running, both literally and figuratively. It was clearly sarcasm. But a court later reduced Richardson Countys liability. Its a shame you dont have a donate button! In fact, Teenas disguise was not as impenetrable as is now believed. Log in or sign up for Facebook to connect with friends, family and people you know. The form may change; the substance doesnt. A year before Boys Dont Cry, Tisdel herself had appeared in the documentary The Brandon Teena Story, and she seemed like a sympathetic character there, too. The real question is, why Teena liked Lotter. After moving to Falls City from his hometown of Lincoln, Brandon met a 19-year-old woman named Lana Tisdel and swept her off her feet. Its a side issue that she happened to be presenting as male at the time as if those scum needed that excuse to do what they did. You shouldnt call him a girl or use she/her. She was a talented actress, she could make people laugh and had leadership potential. And as a gay man myself, I can say that weve had enough of having our stories heteronormalized to make people like you feel more comfortable. L.L. Lotter applied for a license to marry Jeanne Bissonnette, 50, of Lakewood, Washington, in 2013, according to the Omaha World Herald. The last time Lana Tisdels name came up in the press was the year 2000, when she settled a lawsuit with movie distributor Searchlight Pictures for an undisclosed sum. It had to have been Lana's mother told them where he was. Teena says that Nissen pulled her pants off but did not grope her. Struggle to survive. She has become more striking with maturity. Sevigny received an Oscar nomination for her role. He is not getting away from her! To say that Teena was experimenting is like saying that a person starving to death in a famine is dieting. Lana M. Tisdel (born May 28, 1975) [2] is an American woman whose early life and involvement with the December 1993 murders of Brandon Teena, Lisa Lambert and Phillip DeVine, at the hands of John Lotter and Tom Nissen, is chronicled in the 1998 documentary The Brandon Teena Story and the 1999 film Boys Don't Cry (which left out DeVine). Brandons mother, JoAnn, won $80,000 in a civil suit against the county for failing to arrest Lotter and Nissen immediately after the rape charges were filed. Honestly thats what I had thought all these years. Really, read up on the outlaw biker violence against women and how Nissen beat Teena by kicking and punching her in the belly every time he beat her. Teenas real problem was that she witnessed her mother and sister getting hit at around 3 to 5 years of age, and spend the rest of her life running from domestic violence and mysogeny. The bottom line is these men knew she identified as a man. Lana : No. And argument from emotion isnt argument, Ill consider myself non-platformed for unacceptable opinion by you. Nissen drove your car you was passenger to hwy 105 Humboldt, Ne. AFFORDABLE, I hate people talking about Teena as Brandon. Right now there is a clamoring afoot to get Lotter off the death row. There was a 1954 article measuring tomboyishness in girls and sissiness in boys growing up, 33% of boys have girlish traits and a whopping 66% of girls have boyish traits. Now, how would a teen-age girl know this? Your last name Lotter was on the knife. Until next time, cheers. brandons agab may be female but his gender identity was male. Teena Brandon used to dress up as a 1930s gangster, and when she dressed as a cowboy for the State Fair, the idea of being an outlaw appealed to her. Her kidnapping, rape, and murder was a lot more brutal in real life, because the two were a lot closer to her than the film portrays. Thats what Lotter and Nissen believed as well. Teena's new group of friends in the area included 17-year-old Lana Tisdel, her older sister Leslie, Lana's ex-boyfriend (and former convict) John Lotter, and his pal Marvin Nissen. Having agreed that Brandon is male your subsequent assertion either had to contradict that or was otiose. 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