Might be easier for most folks to buy an M4 screw, type K, thermocouple direct vs trying to get the probe version then another adapter. link to the pid I purchasedhttps://www.auberins.com/index.php?main_page=product_info\u0026products_id=232#espresso #coffee #latteart #lattemy current espresso bar setupLelit BiancaIMS nano coated filter basket https://amzn.to/3dyQgZyLibra coffee scale https://amzn.to/3ps114i Tamper distributor https://amzn.to/2Q0rk52Under Cabinet stick on smart light strip https://amzn.to/2SK6cBTSmart plug (homekit, google home, Alexa) https://amzn.to/2TTwUb4Fellow Espresso Cups https://amzn.to/3zN6Izmcappuccino cups https://amzn.to/3zMU1VxGaggia classic pro setupV V V V V V V V Gaggia Classic Pro https://amzn.to/39B5coTIMS nano coated filter basket https://amzn.to/3dyQgZyTamper distributor https://amzn.to/2Q0rk52Libra coffee scale https://amzn.to/3ps114iBarista Express setupv v v v v v v v v v v v v v Breville Barista Express https://amzn.to/2FQS9E4Libra coffee scale https://amzn.to/3ps114iTamper / distributer https://amzn.to/2HmhshGBottomless portafilter https://amzn.to/3jd52prThe bottomless portafilter says 3month delivery I got mine in two weeksDosing funnel https://amzn.to/35fcqM1Knock box https://amzn.to/2KFfESEitems not to buy based on my reviews:Delonghi La Specialista Dark Horse Coffee dark roastKeurigChapters:00:00 intro00:30 opening the machine01:05 removing the boiler (optional)02:13 removing/replacing the thermostat04:39 mounting the ss relay06:48 wiring the relay10:37 wiring the pid controller 14:16 mounting the pid controller14:49 mounting the boiler back on15:11 closing the machineAFFILIATE DISCLOSURE:Some of the links used in the description will direct you to Amazon, as an Amazon Associate I earn from qualifying purchases at no additional cost to you. This guide should generally also apply to the 2013 GC, but you must assume that any of the switch wiring that I describe will be different for your model year. Gaggia Classic Pro/2019 complete wires and controller PID kit - 1/32DIN. Use Git or checkout with SVN using the web URL. Keep the thermostat, in case you want to return the Classic back to factory condition. Thats an awesome enclosure. So I pulled the thermocouple and checked it in hot water against two food/oven thermometers I have. QB-T7100 48*24mm Programmable Digital PID Temperature Controller AC/DC 85-250V Hello. Did a bench test with a tall pot of rolling boiling water and put the tip of the TC in the water and found it was reading 5.5 degrees low. however the one SSR is nice and the modification gives upgraded steam with the solder mod. Its actually reading too high.. 98 deg against 92deg measured by both my oven thermometers. You will be working with potentially lethal mains voltages. Includes both BREW and STEAM control SSR's. Suitable for new style Gaggia Classic coffee machines usually made in 2018 or after. Thank you for your time. Is this just a matter of adjusting the offset of the PID? Do you think this makes difference? Would you be able to post starting values for the PID kit please? Hey. Re-attach the boiler with the four bolts, re-attach the steam wand, push on the steam knob, and put the lid assembly back on, without forgetting to re-connect the two ground wires. It will void your warranty, the possibility for making errors or breaking things during installation is too high, and the amount of time it takes would make it cost prohibitive. I wondered if you ended up testing both in the end. With a SV of 103C (not offset), during initial overshoot the heater would sometimes be one when it was at 104-105C with the temperature rising as high as 108. You are right, its an M4 thread, not M3. When the steam switch is on, the PID stays on but because the boiler temperature in steam mode is much higher than the brew temperature of the PID, the PID provides no power to the SSR and heating element. Hi Joe. . Step by step guide to adding a PID to a Gaggia Classic Pro. I love the Lego enclosure idea. That is indeed not normal. Follow the included circuit diagram. Hi Ray. 342. Hello Chris, Mods for post 2018 - Gaggia Classic Pro / Gaggia Classic 2019 espresso machines View products Mods for pre 2018 - "Original" Gaggia Classic espresso machines View products sign up Set the cover and screws aside. Thank you. I have not changed any of the P, I or D settings on my controller. Is there a way to tap into +/- 12Volts inside the GCP? Hi Brandon. Wire colors and positions seem to vary. You would need to put the boiler heater element between the controller terminals 2 and 3. Thoughts & musings from a product developer and manager. I also think that you may have less difficulty reaching the thermostat, the 2019+ models have a lot less room to spare inside. START NOW KIT-GG Installation Guide Version 1.3 Auber Instruments, 730 Culworth Manor, Alpharetta, GA 30022 e-mail: info@auberins.com Tel: 770-569-8420 www.auberins.com This is a PID controller kit installation guide distributed solely to our clients, who have purchased the KIT-GG kit. The Arduino board is secured using a small amount of hot glue. I am going into speculation mode here I wonder if your Gaggia came with the steam and brew thermostat positions reversed? There was a problem preparing your codespace, please try again. 1. (To be certain, the M4 is the correct one). PWM dimmer for preinfusion I agree the ability to know exactly where the steam cycle is at is a nice convenience. The PID kit you described should work, but like the C-100 kit the I used, the included thermocouple wont fit in the Gaggia Classic. The idea of the chassis becoming live doesnt bear thinking about. There are several PID kits that are available for the Gaggia, the most popular ones are by Mr. I got the white plastic in one of the stock connectors a bit burned, the plastic looks brown in some areas and a bit melted. Sure enough, it powered up. Shall I connect it to terminal 5 or 2 of the on-off switch? You should now have two mains wires, two 12 volt wires, and the shielded thermocouple wire running out of the back of the Classic. So far the temp range Ive seen when the heater cycles on/off (after ~30 mins of warming up) is ~90C to ~97C. The only way to cut it is to unplug the machine. These wires will be connected to the solid state relay later on, so they no longer need to be in the bottom of the machine. Hi Jun. Plug in a mains-rated wire connected to a piggyback spade connector, and then plug the original neutral cable into the piggyback. - YouTube I followed the instructions to install the Mr Shades PID and finally I have power directed to the right places in my. Using pliers to pull the connectors can pinch them on even more tightly, making them extremely difficult to remove. Or do you think the same set will work with QB-T7100? I managed to succeed on brewing side with DA SSR however I could not find an appropriate diagramm for adding my AA SSR for steaming alarm function. Comes with all of the accessories that originally came in the box. I can only find vids and instruction for the pro (does anyone have links for the older version?) https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00LODGP2E/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_image_o05_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1, BOX Plug in a mains-rated cable connected to a piggyback spade connector, and then plug the original switched mains cable into the piggyback. The enclosures purpose is first to protect you from the mains current, and second, to make it easier to attach the PID to the Gaggia. Hi Brian. Do you know how to do this? I managed the brew side PID and digging in for the steaming side, using PID alarm function of my XMT 7100 unit. Measured everything with multimeter, then realized that C100 doesnt get main while machine is on based on the lights. One last question: Auber and Mr Shades are calling their sensors PT100 while mine is K type thermocouple. If you used piggyback connectors, it should be a quick job to move the right one over to the correct switch terminal. Gaggia Classic Pro. Please let us know if theres a way to show our gratitude if theres a charity or cause we can donate to for you putting this guide together. I think this would be the most important parameter of the build, obtaining the correct temp of the water. From: 100,00 . gaggia classic pro pid installation guideAUBER PID for gaggia classic proThis is a walkthrough / guide on ins. Shades. Im on [emailprotected] To set the target temperature, press the Set button on the front of the panel. How to install a PID on a Gaggia Classic Pro - DIY, cheap and good looking! By accepting all cookies, you agree to our use of cookies to deliver and maintain our services and site, improve the quality of Reddit, personalize Reddit content and advertising, and measure the effectiveness of advertising. So there is more or less no concern about PID heat and the PID enclosure. The listing shows both M3 and M4 options, and I typed the first one when I wrote the article. My theory at the moment would be that due to the PID control the heater is sometimes on at higher temperatures. Tap the switched hot/load mains power: disconnect the lower left-hand (if facing the front of the machine) wire from the power switch. As for your PID always remaining on, it looks like you wired it to the unswitched mains, instead of the switched power. Hi Kraken. Hi Eddie. I had to manually enable autotuning on my REX-C100 and i dont know if other values are screwed up or if its something else, since it really does seem like the boiler is getting power in bypass of whatever the PID is doing. 40 A SSR; Display; Components. Hi Dennis. I like the quality of the shots, and temperature consistency is more important to me than pressure consistency. If anyone is 3d printing the enclosure and doesnt want to tape or otherwise attach it to the Gaggia, I have made these small hooks that can be glued on to the enclosure: https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:4938828. I have to turn the set point on the PID down to about 85C to stop it boiling and getting steam and a great deal of sputter out of the portafilter. The required parts are a PID controller, a solid state relay (SSR) preferably rated for 40 amps, a K-type thermocouple, a thermocouple adapter to connect the thermocouple to the Gaggia boiler, wire rated for mains voltages as well as some smaller gauge 12 volt wire, male and female quick disconnect connectors, spade connectors, and two piggyback spade connectors. Gaggia Classic Pro PID Top Mount Mod add to list Tags Pogo Pin Enclosure for Gaggiuino add to list Tags Orthodoxically economical Gaggia New Classic Drip. All other variables aside, once you get a temperature that gives you the results you want, you will be able to get those results again, and again. Your Gaggia would be in steam mode by default, you would never have to switch on steam mode. Steaming will remain controlled by the Gaggia's stock thermostat. Double check that this is the neutral! Hi Chris, I am gathering / ordering the parts specified and was surprised to find out the price for 3d printing price spiked. Is this a typo on your part or a mistake on their part? There is definitely a falloff from the temperature reported by the thermocouple at the boiler and what you will measure at the group head. Because the wiring connections can vary between manufacturers, you should bench-test your setup before final assembly. Thanks. I drilled pilot holes for all the screws because my 3D printer has problems printing holes that small. i set an upper an lower limit on alarms. When I turn off, it goes back to zero. When I finished, the whole C100 display just got current only for a sec, then it went out. I ran the Autotuning function couple of times and I am always getting the following values for P, I and D parameters: P=620 , I=32, D=8. Thus brewing circuit needs to be connected directly to the heating element, not over steaming circuit. Ill try to get a new thermostat from a reputable place, see if that solves the problem, and if it remains then something else in the machine is wrong. different wiring though. If you do this, consider counter-sinking the magnet so that it is flush with the outisde of the box. it appears i can configure the BERM REXC-100 like this as i entered the settings after i enabled alarm 1. auber uses 1 SSR & is simple. For me I start steaming when the boiler temperature reads 130 degrees C. So for others who are contemplating going for the extra effort of installing the steam PID, know that the return on investment of doing this is questionable, if not net negative. Thanks again for all your support. Thanks! Current Status. 3-Connect the other cable to the terminal on the on off switch, which is on top of or below the Live cable. Most assembly guides recommend using some thermal paste between the SSR and the Classic to ensure that any heat from the SSR is dumped to the chassis. I was able to create one using Lego bricks sitting around in the basement. The only suprise for me has been that installing steam kit did not help me much because brewing kit alone helped to have great steaming power by only watching temperature climb up to 150 degrees. Ive been having trouble steaming milk lately, and wonder if there might be something wrong with the thermostat in my machine, wiring problems extending to this as well, or the steam valve might finally be needing a replacement. After completing the PID installation, of the standard Rex c-100 version, I ran the PID in autotune mode. For more information, please see our So I would say yes, you should use a heat sink, but the Gaggia body conveniently provides you with that function. I have briefly thought about pre-infusion but the REX C-100 is not capable of this. Thanks so much for the awesome guide! The sensor has three wires: 1 x red and 2 x white. Look at Gaggia classic PID install instructions. The included STL files assume you're using the exact same parts I am. That is confusing. Marca: Gaggia. The thermostat is a replacement, the original one burned around three years ago. These set the parameters and algorithms that monitor and control. (for a reasonable fee of course). Yes it is normal for the brew light to blink like this after you install a PID. Remove the thermostat. I am now waiting for my PID unit and thermocouple with M4 head to arrive this week. Autotuning had resulted in shot instability up to 10 degrees during a shot probably because conditions during standby and during brewing are very different than each other. My P value is quite a lot different than yours. Trim, terminate and connect the wires you routed out the back of the Classic to the PID. The boiler in the Gaggia can get hot enough to melt non-silicone insulation so if you don't have silicone wiring, make sure to keep any wiring well clear of the boiler. One question, Ever thought about adding a pre infusion feature? Realized with your last comment you dont have the offset in place, my bad. The thermocouple should be snug but not too tight as the threads are not super robust. Recently purchased and upgraded Gaggia Classic Pro from Whole Latte Love in late November, and built/installed the Gaggiuino mod myself in February. Once you are able use the PID temperature readout to determine exactly what the steam cycle is, you know when to start steaming for more or less endless steam. If you really want these features, its probably time to think about upgrading your machine. My plan is to install the Rex C100 first using your instructions. Unfortunately, I didnt measure any temperatures for the un-modified machine. This would also allow you to switch to PID-controlled brew mode simply by lowering the PID temperature. This is not a difficult mod. The PID is really converting the mains voltage to 12VDC both for its internal operation and to drive the SSR, so the PIDs draw is quite small. Theres also a M4 connected thermocouple wire on Amazon that arrived fast although it increased the whole cost compared to Bangood. Thanks, I see what you mean. New - Gaggia Classic Pro/2019 PID kit - 1/32DIN single display $140.81 Shades of Coffee Original - Gaggia Classic PID kit - 1/32DIN single display $140.81 Shades of Coffee TopBox PID Mounting System $36.17 Shades of Coffee Gaggia Classic - Flow Control Dimmer kit $27.13 sign up ABOUT US CONTACT US DELIVERY TERMS YOUR PRIVACY REFUND POLICY FAQs Hi Chris, I hesitate to identify wires by their color, as the wire colors in the Gaggia seem to vary from year to year and from region to region. You can use the sensor reading on the PID display to know when to start steaming. I have a 2005 GC with a Mr Shades PID kit installed. I have a 2013 Gaggia Classic. Try powering the PID directly from mains power, with just the thermocouple connected (disconnect the SSR). Final note: before going down the PID route, the easiest modification to make, and the best starting point for Gaggia Classic modifications, is lowering the brew pressure. MY GC does the same thing, the pump tone changes when the boiler is heating. Does this mean that I have made the connection properly? It was impossible to see without getting down into the wire harness. Im sorry about that, Eric. Bliss. Did you make any changes to the setting of the PID? Connect the two leads you removed from the original thermal switch to the switched AC side of the SSR. The C-100 that I received was set up properly, I only had to change the temperature. Shades. For those interested I just bought a cheap ($13) K-type thermocouple and thermometer (TM-902C) https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/224710871179. The PID I ordered came as a package with a solid state relay and a thermocouple, but that thermocouple had too big a diameter to with the Gaggia. Free shipping. 24,00 . Gaggia Classic Coffeemaker Coffee Drink Food and Drink comments sorted by Best Top New Controversial Q&A Add a Comment More posts you may like. PID, Auto Shot Timer Add to Watch list. Pull off the steam knob and disconnect the steam wand. Thanks. Its not a sensor, it doesnt send any information, it just switches on an off, at setpoints that you cant adjust. The grommet is used where the wires go through the chassis. Hi Rusty. . When the PID signals the SSR, as indicated by the brew ready light and the output led on the PID, the pressure coming out of the pump decreases, and then increases again after the PID out to the SSR turns off. Otherwise, it all works properly now. Using two 5-8 cm pieces of properly-rated wire (15 amps for North America), make two connectors to connect the thermostat wires to the AC terminals of the solid state relay. (Markings can be found on front side of the plug) 2-Check the color of the cable which shows L sign on the plug- meaning Live. And once you start considering adding in a power supply, you might as well go for a PID. Marca: Gaggia: Capacidad: 72 Onzas: Color: Acero inoxidable cepillado: Dimensiones del producto: This approach would give you a somewhat unique machine that has a factory thermostat-controlled brew mode, and a PID-controlled steam mode. Regarding the M4 screw/ thermocouple, is it possible to amend the picture? Ive set the Sn value to pt for the PT100. Did you have any problems or stumbled upon anything unexpected? Hello again, I found out that connection I made was wrong. I am flattered, but will have to pass. But will there be an upper limit to prevent the boiler from going near 365F and blowing thermal. I have a similar model, C100-Fk02-V*AN. Yesterday I replaced the group head gasket. AC CIRCUITS ARE DANGEROUS AND MISTAKES CAN CAUSE INJURY OR DEATH. Maybe this could serve instead of trying to find an M4 thermocouple. My next thought was that the controller wasnt reading the correct temperature. I used lamp cord for this. Display: Dual display for Fahrenheit(F) and Celsius(C) This commit does not belong to any branch on this repository, and may belong to a fork outside of the repository. Work fast with our official CLI. You should be able to find the switched mains with the help of a multimeter. Apart from that, when I turn on steam mode, the thermostat takes temperature in the machine around 151c-152c, it doesnt turn on again after it goes down to 102C, then turns on and repeats the cycle. I do not suggest autotuning for this device because there is a huge improvement in temperature stability if you do the tuning by yourself. This way you are not losing any pressure via the solenoid valve, you are just reducing the initial pressure to the puck by venting some of it through the steam wand. CONCLUSION! You should see no or very low voltage between neutral and ground, and you should see household voltage between the hot/load and ground. Do you think its going to blow my machine if I dont do correctly? Please To do that I turned the machine upside-down. The best part is I am only in about $40 on my kit compared to around $150 for the pre made kits. Thank you for making it. gaggia classic pro pid installation guideAUBER PID for gaggia classic proThis is a walkthrough / guide on installing an Auber pid on the gaggia classic pro. Your email address will not be published. Do you think this makes a difference? Hi Miguel. It shows that neutral cables coming from thermostats are connecting each other under the steam switch but mine are connected under the main switch. I decided to go the do-it-yourself route, ordering the parts separately, at a fraction of the cost of the kits. This video covers initial setup of the Gaggia Classic Pro espresso machine. I am not sure exactly what you did when you moved the wires terminating on the bottom of the power switch. Cookie Notice Likewise, you can use 22 awg for the connection between the PID and the SSR. Chris, do you recall what size flat head screw was used on the 3d printed box for the REX-100? The YouTube video from wll about replacing the boiler made the whole thing very easy. Most likely they will have the same connector types as the REX-C100, but its always possible that you will need different connectors depending on what you end up ordering. Chris has done a great job on this write up and its easy to follow. But, I still get loads of steam and spray before it settles down. Converting CUSIP-6, CUSIP-8 and CUSIP-9 to ISIN in PHP, How to automatically block WordPress bot spam without a plugin, which I ordered as an inexpensive kit with a thermocouple and a solid state relay, PID installation in Gaggia Classic causing shortcircuits ColorMag, https://wiki.wholelattelove.com/File:GAGGIA_CLASSIC_2019_Wiring_Schematic.pdf, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UETVv0qgz-w, https://coffeeforums.co.uk/topic/53319-what-temp-offset-are-you-using-with-your-pid/, https://diy.stackexchange.com/questions/195229/in-a-light-switch-how-can-i-tell-if-the-black-wire-is-really-hot-and-the-white, https://www.reddit.com/r/espresso/comments/owpfe7/i_made_a_lego_enclosure_for_rex_c100_pid/, https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00LODGP2E/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_image_o05_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1, https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:4243840, https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:4938828, https://www.reddit.com/r/gaggiaclassic/comments/l5tfcj/mr_shades_pid_installed_decided_to_mount_inside, https://calbryant.uk/blog/well-integrated-pid-temperature-control-of-a-gaggia-classic-espresso-machine/#better-temperature-regulation, https://www.vertex-qis.co.uk/Manuals/PT100_con.pdf, https://photos.app.goo.gl/8yPwJcEPDi1c5tfY7, https://photos.app.goo.gl/Xp37S3o3y6bqqrEk8, https://www.shadesofcoffee.co.uk/post-2018/gaggia-classic-2019ri9480power-switch-mod, Barista Tools that are Worth their Weight in Gold. Obviously the actual water temp will be different, but I can use this range to try and get a consistent temp when I pull a shot. About 60cm of 1mm2 (17AWG) cable to deliver power from the Gaggia to the PID 3. I started with 103, and bumped it up to 105. The coffee water temperature in the boiler of a home espresso machine is originally controlled by a bi-metal thermostat, which causes a big temperature swing. Applications Inside the GC, all bets are off as to wire colors, aside from green for ground, and even then, I wouldnt assume anything. Looks like thats not an option. Just installed the PID kit from shades of coffee, i configured it to 93c but when i turn the brew switch on, the temp doesnt stay at the +-1 tolerance. Was hoping to actually just install one of these: https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/264849127538 great article !!!! When set up on my bench it tucks away nicely in behind out of sight and only needs to come out when in use. Shall I change the P,I and D parameters manually and what is your suggestion to start with? The steam mode has its own thermostat, which is very similar to the brew thermostat that the PID replaced, except that its temperature range is more or less as you described. have you had any issues with the k type or have heard of this? Youre probably fine with either one. I would like to use it for steaming ONLY. A couple of zip ties come in handy here. If you use anything different you'll need to make adjustments to the 3D printed parts. Hi Brian. Open Source PID for Gaggia Classic and Classic Pro espresso machines. add to list Tags Gaggia Classic (Pro) PID controller housing add to list Tags Gaggia Classic Pro Water Reservoir Lid add to list Tags Gaggia Classic Arduino & Touchscreen Housing . There is a small copper pipe inside the boiler that draws the hot water from the top ( by design)which is quite clever but it still suffers from wild temp fluctuations intra shot even with a pid because cold water is being drawn in to replace the lost hot water for your espresso. Replacing that wire= everything works perfectly now! Range: -1999 to 9999 (depends on the input signal) ESP32-WROOM32 - ESP32DEVKIT1; 40 A SSR . But follow chriss advice and be careful and you should be OK. And also use a rubber grommet to route your wires through the slots in the back of the chassis. Again, as above, run this cable out the back, and leave it unterminated and longer than needed. Im running into problems and I dont know if my REX-C100s starting values are the problem or if its my deviation with the wiring: Regardless of the temperature that i set on my PID, toggling the Gaggia on causes it to climb to 150-160C and then slowly decline to 118-125C, at which time it will heat up again. However, depending on the seller, some settings may need to be changed. I have read reports of measurements of up to 8 degrees C lower at the portafilter. Do not undertake this procedure if you are not comfortable or uncertain. Remove the portafilter and water tank. I plan on doing the same thing as you did, bought both PID simply because the QB-T7100 is slimmer the case is readily accessible from mr. shades, compared to the higher cost of 3d printing a case for the REX. and I didnt work straight through, but I would say the PID took me about 2 hours, not counting the down time due to the crossed power wires. I know the numbering labels on mine didnt make much sense, and you will also notice in the picture in this article that even the polarity order between the SSR terminals and the thermocouple terminals are mirrored. Some shops are quoting $80.00 for the PID enclosure + lid. P 53.1 Hi Evan. If you are competent with basic workshop tools and can follow written instructions and photographs then you should be able to install the Gaggia Classic Pro PID Kit in around 2-3hrs and it requires only basic tools such as: A medium flat-bladed screwdriver A medium cross-head screwdriver If in doubt, sit it out, and get some help. Then use the left/right buttons to select the digits to increase and decrease, and the up/down buttons to change the digits. If the brand or source is questionable, I would recommend derating the current by a factor of 2 or 3 and going for a model rated for 25-40A just to be safe. Gaggia Classic OPV spring mod kit - Standard version (just springs) $12.78 Shades of Coffee Slim drip tray complete with long vent tube for Gaggia Classic $30.67 Shades of Coffee Bottomless Portafilter with walnut wooden handle (smooth) - for Gaggia Classic / Classic Pro $42.17 Shades of Coffee To do this, loosen the nut connecting the steam wand to the steam control assembly. 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